Interlocutors say that meteorology is not just a hobby, but a way of life and a source of anxiety.
Joshvydas Elinskas / 15 minutes. Photo Collection / Mikhail Meteorite
– How interesting is meteors and who are you – just leisure or something else?
Andrei: The meteors were originally a hobby. It all started from amateur astronomy – I had a small telescope. Once, watching Moon, I thought it would be nice to touch, keeping the particle in my hands. This idea was completely overcrowded, and I started to be interested in meteors. I realized that I would be interesting to collect them.
After many years and the forces dedicated to this hobby, I can say that meteorological science and collecting meteorology today are much more than a relaxed lifestyle: lifestyle and thinking, part integral to my life, business, the reality angle, and the world's forecasts. In fact, the practical relationship with the meteorite has led me to think about the meaning of life more than the astronomy theory. The meteorite that you have in your hand gives you much more adrenaline than the mathematical equations that describe the image of cosmetic objects or the operation of the universe. He has strong feelings, realizing that he has cast into a long part of the world, an alien in the depth of the universe.
Mikhail: I was interested in the meteorites, it is possible to say, by chance, when one collector gave me the support of the Sichot-Aluminum iron meteorite. This material is five billion years old, it's a birthday for the solar system. Rarely found. This experience has had an intense impact on me – I remembered my childhood when I dreamed of becoming a geologist, but I chose the other sciences – engineering. And this unexpected collision with a meteor, figuratively, corrected the journey of my life – he went back to a childhood dream, waking up incredible curiosity, an appetite to explore and discover.
Like every meteorite applicant, I'm a little scared about them, but I'm guaranteed – they give me the meaning of my life. I have not yet found a meteorite, although I have been part of a trip for many years. But I'm looking for it, because that's where the meaning lies. I believe that a few people can understand me.
– What is the most expensive meteorite that has to store in your hands?
Andrei: The drutaf meteorite and I had to keep it in my hands was a heavenly torch of a hundred euros from a private collection. The scientific value of meteorite is usually compatible with the commercial meteorite value. The most valuable meteorite is the unusual, rare in nature, which could contain the remains of organic material – cosmic life – which can provide information about the past of our planet, solar system , universe … Sometimes it's happening. For example, the famous Chelyabinsk meteorite, the fall of 2013 in winter, was found to be small, so the cost of each piece was high, and something was earning a lot of money quickly. But later, the material was found to be significant that there was a real confusion in the meteorite market – the value of ten times fell.
Mikhail: I am 2009 In one major meteorite event in Italy, I lay in my hands a square kilogram of Lleuad, whose par value at that time is about one million dollars. A family of meteorite claimants in Italy found a Moroccan desert. They go there every year to look for happiness. Here's a lottery: it's not a long time, but once – a stone of the moon, and you're a millionaire (laughs).
– You are the only two members who have been licensed by the International Association of Meteorological Collectors (IMCA) from Lithuania. Is it hard to join this institution?
Andrey: I am an EAGM member since 2012, and Mikhail from 2015. In order to gain an appropriate membership qualification, I had to learn a lot: I spent hours in the VU library, I studied geology seriously, then mineology and science meteorological, as long as I understood the principles of systematization, distribution, origin and value of meteorites, and principles of recognition by features.
Indeed, this study never ends: as an expert, you need to know the most relevant information, be interested in news in this area, and look constantly on the correspondence between assumptions theoretical and practical consequences, especially when facing a new meteorite, unfamiliar. The requirements and standards of the EAGM are very high, and membership is becoming increasingly difficult.
Mikhail: I also started, I can say, from the beginning – I did not know that subject, I had no acknowledgivers in this area. He took a lot of work, studying, establishing the necessary contacts, carrying out special exams, finally receiving recommendations from at least two EAGM members. It's not easy, because the guarantors take responsibility for you, guarantee you're not avant-garde, a scammer. They endanger that they are permanently deprived of membership if the recommendation fails.
– What are you ready to do for a meteor, what and how much of a sacrifice?
Andrei: Now I've collected a huge collection of meteorites, I can get breathing easier, but it took many years to achieve this goal. Often it was time to sacrifice time for the family, a significant part of the budget, and common interests. But the desired result was not straightforward – material or moral were not returned. At times when there was no Internet, I was sending paid advertisements to newspapers to buy meteorites.
I run across Lithuania as a whole. After being, a person calls and says he must. I have to drive, look at it – after all, you will not be able to know the phone, in fact or not. Naturally, my wife was originally evaluated by my hobby, even the storm of emotions arisen. Now the house – my wife and my daughters – do not think of my work, used and seen as much as he learned during this period that they are already hard to surprise something.
Mikhail: I, like Andrei, have invested in the meteor for an immense period. I realized: You need to make systematic efforts and there is no attempt to get the result. The rewards do not come straight away, so you need to be patient with patience and be prepared to stay.
– Is it possible to decompose your activities and think you might still not have enough?
Andrew: From bad things, I'm disappointed that I give a clear and pragmatic task to me: buy one other meteor, to process, to prepare a collector plate, to refill your collection or sell it. Of course, there has been a failure to implement the scheme, but other projects eventually managed to offset the failed failures.
Mikhail: It's probably paradoxical, but above all I am not disappointed by me, not through meetings, but from relationships with people. From time to time: trust, communicate, we are moving towards a common goal, and it seems that some people only think about themselves that they can give the result.
– Which journey was most remembered? What challenges do you face?
Andrei: I'm rarely involved with trips because I'm mostly a collector, not a quiz. The challenge and challenge most for me are the discussions that require knowledge of psychology and scientific knowledge, tactics and insights.
Mikhail: I will never forget the expedition to the republic of Bashkortostan, the Ural region, Russia, where I was going to be dipper as we were looking for a meter at the base of one water body. Diving conditions were particularly complicated: turbine water, poor visibility, unpredictable base … I had to melt, assess the situation, get basic data from a particular device, or have a massive meteoric body at the bottom. So far, the hump is at the back: feelings – like in space – do not realize in the unknown, pressures down the ears, no landmarks, not the top or bottom. …
About 15 meters in detail, I hit the bottom of the head, jumping the oxygen tube, the mask was rarely. It could have been unfortunately seriously. However, I build up, I was upset, I restrict the tools, I fell from the bottom and climbed up. Symbolic Life before the eyes passed. I felt like a second birth.
– Do you participate in special meteorite events?
Andrei: The main area of my activity is the virtual world. I have all the information, contacts and objects that I need on the Internet. So you do not need to drive physically somewhere. Transaction, sale, exchange or lending transactions can be made online. Only if you have to keep in touch with hands, I will look at the meteorization before the transaction.
Mikhail: Over the years there are 3-4 major exhibitions in the world, massive meteorological events that you have to attend if you want to be visible and well-known. If you do not have it, you do not exist in the meteorite. Here, I find myself like people I know well and who understand me, so I'll feel very well.
Many of them – Indian Jones, because their whole life is an endless adventure. They like to walk on the razor blade, endangered their lives, for example, to the point in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya, where it is very dangerous, there can be unsafe, but scarce meteorites. True shame The gun of the applicant Somali's bands shot the gun pipe, and he explained, knocking on the road, what the meteors are and why they need it. Everything came to an end happily. Started
– What do you think about what you mean when observing the "falling stars" phenomenon – the meteor shower?
Andrei: Now I have accumulated enough information about aeromena phenomena, I know that the meteoric phenomenon is directly related to the meteorite in very rare cases. The cars are completely different. When watching this, she thinks she will not be able to evaporate the atmosphere and reach the surface of our planet, becoming a feteorite. I can tell about the instances when observers had decided precisely the car's flight route, went straight to search for material and to get it. Unfortunately, I'm not lucky enough (laughing).
Mikhail: As a meteoric and romantic hunt, I like to observe meteors in dark, wild evenings, especially in the autumn. Beautiful But I'm really interested in me, like Andrei, in the car. True, this phenomenon immediately got once. Then I thought: if I was to fall, I'd like to hit my yard – it's a shame that I disappear (laugh).
– – What are the special Lithuanian meteorites? From historical sources, we know at least four causes of falling: in 1877 near the village of Juodžiai, in the Panevezys area, 1908 near Akmene, 1929 Andrioniškis near Anykščiai and in 1933 Žemaitkiemis near Ukmerge. What is the fate of this meteorite material?
Andrei: First of all, they're special because of themselves. Many collectors want to have a meteorite that has dropped in its territory. The more the territory, the more it is the chance that the country will be alienated from the external space. The calculations show that the number of meteorites lost in Lithuania is totally adequate for the state area – in this regard, our country is not unique.
1877 and 1908 The collapse, especially the first, in which even the meteorite material is missing, is not quite reliable, and its feeling is not anonymous. But the Andrioniškis and Žemaitkiemis cases are very interesting. The Andrionisky Meteorite is believed to be a piece of Vest, which is truly unique. We can make assumptions of this type by comparing this material with the Mars and Moon meteorology.
Žemaitkiemis is unique because many witnesses watch the collapse and the pieces were collected immediately after the collision. This means that the meteor material has not been exposed to the environmental impact, has remained "clean". Even on a European scale is a rare event. I am proud and proud that I have a piece of meteorite Zemaitkiemis in my own collection.
– What suggestions can you give the applicant, the collector of the beginner meteor?
Andrei: Arises from summarizing information, deepening the topic. Without special knowledge – no step. Honest training is only to become an expert. We have met people with their meteorological knowledge very superficially, they do not have the basic facts of physics and geology, but they think they know. Then, in all kinds of curiosity, science science and representatives are ignored. Even if you're very rich, you can try to buy a collection that you already had, but you will not be able to buy it without appropriate education.
Mikhail: I have met Lithuania and abroad with the doctors of such scientists who translate the simple stone and professional bag, and professionals believe they have little betaits that are their own have indicated the origin of the material, trying to sell and exchange. It's funny and grainy. You need to learn and practice a lot to avoid such situations. For the beginner or applicant collector I would like to enjoy critical thinking, adequate attitude and patience because there is no quick result here.
– What did the meteors do you learn?
Andrei: The passion of collecting has directed me to unfortunately to pursue my goal and to believe it as a success. When I was interested in collecting meteorites, I began to see how small our universe is and how big the universe is. This philosophical idea is constantly familiar with me and makes the world look different.
Mikhail: As I am a transporter, working with meteor materials has been seen to look for new processing techniques, more elegant aesthetic forms, and improve my skills in workmanship. Finally, I received the challenge of doing something that a little can do. And yet, I realized that a person can not only build a reality through his mind, giving them value: stone falls from heaven, and we create a whole context, narrative, and see a deeper meaning.